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I think you might have things backwards. You touch on economics more as an outgrowth of political narratives, but I think that the opposite might be true:

What if we are living through the collapse of the liberal capitalist narrative that has existed since the late 18th century, and the political narrative collapse that you correctly identify is an outgrowth of the lack of an economic vision that describes a better future?

You seem to come close to a deeper discussion about economics as the root when you talk about how the current economic order is created ecological systems collapse while leaving millions or billions of people in near slavery. I was kind of surprised when reading this that you didn't mention any of Mark Fisher's ideas about capitalist realism, specifically him building off a quote from the philosophers Fredric Jameson and Slavoj Žižek "It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism", as well as his ideas around a deep nostalgia for a lost future (maybe you aren't familiar with him though).

We seem stuck in that place where nearly everyone can see that things don't work but a lack of imagination about a different future leaves us rehashing old narratives hoping this time they'll work, or accepting strongman narratives of power dynamics and the law of the jungle to try and grab as much as possible so that others can't have it. At the end of the day though, as James Carville said, "It's the economy, stupid."

Using the economic narrative model I'm suggesting, the authoritarians are saying, "see Chinese autocratic quasi-capitalism is strong, we can do that too if we give up on democratic ideas (but pay no attention to the possibility that its all a facade to scare people from challenging them or to the neofeudalist oligopoly that would result if we do that here)", while the old liberal order is saying "uhhh...lets keep doing what we've been doing economically (even though that hasn't worked for millions / billions of people) and uhhh...I guess try and make it suck a little less around the edges", and the political narratives then fall out of those competing economic visions - or lack of vision in the latter.

It's a really really scary thought though, because Jameson and Žižek were totally correct - it really is easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of the Westphalian liberal capitalist order. I feel like it might be something you almost considered when writing this, but shied away from it because of the frightening enormity that follows when you actually say it out loud. What does the end of our current concept of liberal capitalism even mean? What does come next? How should we aspire to create a society that delivers better standards of living for everyone while not trashing the planet? What chaos will result as we figure that out?

Also, I'm not saying this to suggest that any old idea like socialism / communism is the prescription either. Those are narratives were responsive to and bound up with the classic-liberal capitalist narrative, and have failed to deliver a better future in their own ways...They are also broken narratives.

Point is, we aren't going to magically get to a successful purely political narrative that works to combat the rising authoritarian tide without that being based on the needs of an economic narrative that gives people a reason to believe that the political implementation of those ideas will actually deliver a better future for people and their families.

Darryl Shaper's avatar

Agree that won't be easy to put Humpty Dumpty back together again easily. Unfortunately, IMHO it will have to get much worse before it gets better.

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